Just shows the amount of REAL talent around. Some really wonderfull shots.

very nice selection! well done! looking forward to see more!

niiiice! =)

Great selection. I look foward to seeing more of your choices.

i think this is proof-positive that HSP should have a periodical published 'something' (sorta like JPEG Mag)

Since i've been getting into photography books i'm really starting to see how much better prints look than my monitor :-(

since this is one of the largest, most watched flickr group it must have enough relevance/following to build up a subsription that could make it cost beneficial, No?

I second Joe. I smell a book or a show or something in this collection somewhere.

really great stuff

some crackers in that thread, but I don't understand what this one has that a million others don't

farm1.static.flickr.com/81/280436307_a863e5128d.jpg

What am I not seeing?

great light, tension between two awkward figures (who seem to be almost mirroring each other on opposite sides of the road), extra tension from the approaching police car (are those two guys escaped convicts or undercover cops?) then lots of interesting compositional detail - loads of converging lines and some cute horizontals at the top of the frame. i think the key here is a complexity in the image that makes the viewer look around the frame.

at least thats the way that i read it.... granted its a 'quiet' image, but sometimes its these quieter shots that hide the interesting narratives.

agree with Benny 100%. It is that quietness what gives the tension to the image. it's a great picture imo

I, too, agree... not the kind of pic I might have given a second glance to... there are a lot of that kind about... but there is a rigor to those lines. I like the ones that curve into bottom right. So it becomes a bit like a Renaissance-type diagram - a kind of antidote to the idealized icons of that era.

The image makes you ask questions about it - who's who, what have they done, what are they going to do, is the police car relevant to them, and so on. It's much more than people waiting to cross the road.

Publishing any form of hard-copy would be an interesting experience. Several things would need to be considered:

(1) Sourcing of the images. Obviously you couldn't cherry pick from the pool, because (a) you'd need print quality images and (b) clearance from the photographers. Which would then probably necessitate a JPG-style call to submission and/or personal solicitations on the part of the publishers.

(2) The financial model. You couldn't pay the contributors. How will that sit... finding a way to attract the best without paying.

(3) Generating content. Some people may be satisfied with a regular mishmash of relatively unrelated pics, some colour, black and white. Is the print-equivalent of a Flickr slideshow enough? Perhaps inspiration can be taken/stolen from the Fotolog book, with a combination of vague themes and profiles of individual photographers or more cohesive themes. The trouble with me is I'd like to get more ambitious than that, which opens up a lot of dangerous questions. Wouldn't it be nice to get some great writing in there too? Wouldn't it be nice to spotlight say, Alex Webb or Martin Kollar, next to some unknown photographer from China?

(4) Find the resources to layout/pre-production, to a level of non-suckiness, for as cheap as possible.

(5) Not sucking. The hardest part. I have no interest in yet another amateurish production filled with far too many middling-at-best photos.

You'd think that all this would make it harder than it'd be worth, and you'd probably be right.

Except for the fact that I can't think of many examples of this sort of thing being done successfully before (in terms of the topic). And certainly, no equivalent periodicals/magazines on a subject which is surely the one of the most un-trendy in photography at the moment.

For no. 1 the admins or the magazine committee can as they just have pick the images from the pool and then email the person who they picked to ask them to send the proper size for the mag. So do not need a jpg style submission from the beginning, the submission is just by putting up your photos here on this group. And for fun the last few pages can have small thumbnails of tons of the pictures put in that month with numbers by them with a long list of people (or skip this part) The easiest way to categorize the images is by location. Another way is visual categorization like Black and White or Shadow Play, reflections, lots of people photos, single person photos, whatever.

For 3 you can actually with permission allow the discussions on here to go in the magazine, they are fun and funny and disperse them through the magazine. Everything needs to be organized so that it makes sense, but the discussions here our plenty and some very interesting even with humor. An explanation in the beginning that we are a lively flickr group, with ongoing discusions about photography, etc.

I personally think it is easily possible, it just does take work and for an amount of people to do the work. I do not think it would suck at all, The photos are awesome here and the discussions are funny and if people could get together and figure out a graphically nice way to put it together it could be great, especially that along with the photos there could be a bit of the drama we have on here in the mag.
This part is the hardest part, getting a group together to do the work and stuff like that. If somehow a group can be gotten together to do this it may be people from all over the world so have to figure out how to talk with everyone and one way is through a yahoo group or something like that.

And to think that I have the stereo cam of the quiet shot... eheeh.


I am very satisfied with the reception which our first selection has been receiving. Waiting impatiently for the next batch to come!

I think the consideration given to the possibility of a publication so far is pure genius!

Shveckle the items you mention, including lifting some of the things out of the discussions makes me more enthusiastic about this project than ever before. There are some real gems of information in all that coal, both informative and humorous.

Hinius on the topic of incorporating more complex content than just discussions, would someone from the HSP team actually write the article?

It seems we would need to deal early on with the reality that we may not be able to publish every image that gets posted to HSP as there might be photographer resistance, but i think the 80/20 rule applies here and the ones that would find it appealing would support a quality set of images.

Thanks...

A new week, a new set of picks and pics.

This time, Bitmapr & Eyeblink.

If there's any plans on producing a quality book, it may be worth checking out this site:

www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/100-books.shtml

I think it is good if this thread with selections from the pool stays on the first page... shameless bump.

So this is the latest bunch of selections. This week it's from myself and Migrant, what we picked from the 1500 pictures we were allocated.

Larry Towell complained a little, so he managed to sneak in :)

Loving it!
In a recent conversation with migrant we were discussing that everything is a reason (or almost a reason) for threads, complains and rants on this group, but the administrators selections... I personally was expecting a little bit more of receptivity and such from the members, such as their takes, their opinions, and suggestions or any insides related to the pics. Oh well...

Sorry, we're all grooving over at Overspray magazine.

Hey, I do not agree with all the picks, they are all nice photos, but if I was selecting out of the 1500 they would be quite different. But hey that is true for almost everyone. Well I do like some of the photos a lot, others I do not like that much, or rather not enough to pick it in the top 10 of a batch of any 1500 from this group.

Ok for more controversy out of hinius's pick there are only 4 I really like the rest I consider amongst the crowd.

Out of Migrant's set there are 3 I really like, 3 that I like, but probably would not have picked and 3 that I would not even have considered as even in the subset, not because they are not nice photos, they are, but as I talked about before, I do not consider that kind of photography really street as others here might not consider a certain kind of photo with a close up of one person taken on the street a street photo.

There you have it, thank you!

@ Lara - that is what makes us different and unique beings... Different opinions... you have the right of not liking our selections and we have the right of not agreeing with what you think... it was very explicit that the selections were based on personal taste.
I truly appreciate your output though! and no need to thank us, thank you!

Of course I know that, I was spicing it up. You said you wanted some action on this thread so I gave it. But everyone knows what you said above so that is why I think this thread is kind of silent.

Bryan was a brave guy, he offered to go through 3000 images as opposed to the usual 1500. His selection is up here

Would the monkey be more the photographer or the curator? ;)

I'm enjoying these selctions.. good effort!

Cheers

I'm having trouble seeing the connection with the Infinite Monkey Theorem. It was a good read, though...

Enjoying your efforts, too.

Some great photos!

I enjoy the selections. BrianF, your selection made a good start for my working day!

I'm having trouble seeing the connection with the Infinite Monkey Theorem. It was a good read, though...

If an infinite number of monkeys hitting random keys on typewriters will eventually recompose the complete works of Shakespeare, then an infinite number of monkeys tripping the shutters of their Leicas will surely eventually recreate all the photos Shakespeare made... right?

To be honest, I do get the spirit of it... but thought it would be fun to explore some of the interpretations, as Olov mentioned.

Infinite Monkeys seems to have more to do with producing any specific predetermined sequence, given an infinite number of independent and random events.

...not about picking 10 favorites shots out of a batch of 1500, which is a stretch of the analogy (but is still a great thread).

As you've restated it... a predetermined sequence would be a specific arrangement of pixels that exactly replicate an existing magnum photo, for example. It's more in line with Infinite Monkeys.

When framed this way, it seems quite impossible. In fact, an infinite number of monkeys pressing Leicas would reproduce every single Magnum photo in existance... instantaneously. No waiting.

I don't think the analogy was to be taken so literally though.
Don't overthink it, it's just a nice title for those selection, no more than that.

Of course. It did catch my attention.

Haven't posted for a while, so here are Michael Simon and toong_bo's selections. This is older stuff when the pool was far smaller.

oh, my, god.

thanks thanks thanks.

just found this.

It would be nice to have this again whenever is possible.

*wide eyes* HOwdy. great idea joe/schveckle re: mag.

However, have you ever seen the submissions on jpg that dont make the mag? millions. and utter shit i wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

Great & fantastic as a concept, but i can only imagine the number of "selectively coloured" , flowers & "homeless bum" photos would increase exponentially for you guys to sift through in the group once people want to make it into the mag/group.

This would in turn effect the group because you guys would be p!ssed off with all the sh!t submissions, and nothing will make it to the group becuase the time available to analyse images would decrease and there could be bulk deletion.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8615859/...

We'll all be doomed when cats learn how to take self portraits